Subject: Re: Answer Census 2000 questions? I don't think so... Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:57:54 -0500 From: Big Al To add to the below post I give you this. Just remember people, the census is ONLY for United States citizens having representation in Congress. If you have no representation in Congress because you are not a United States citizen then the census does not apply to you. After all isn't all the census found in United States laws? United States laws only apply to United States citizens. So with that in mind here are the three statutes that appear on the Census Form I got in the mail in July of last year. Read carefully. Then I included Title 2 Section 2 a that is referencing the Constitution designed for the government and its slaves that have so called "representation" in the Den of Criminals (slave masters). Just look at Hawaii and Alaska before they came into the Union in 1958. Have fun, but how can I, as NOT being a United States citizen, even fill out the Census without committing perjury that I am a US citizen wanting a representitive when I am not and don't want a representitive? And you wonder how they (government) verifies and can produce proof that you are a U S citizen liable to pay taxes with this representation? The Census is one implied contract way, isn't it? I strongly suggest you visit www.atgpress.com/ in the next day or so for the Informer's latest that will appear that fits nicely into the Department of Commerce collection of commercial information as to you, as you are involved in the joint venture with an organization called government when wanting representation in their corporate structure. It's a verification of a contract is it not? Big Al -CITE- 13 USC Sec. 221 -EXPCITE- TITLE 13 CHAPTER 7 SUBCHAPTER II -HEAD- Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers -STATUTE- (a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100. (b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500. (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body. -SOURCE- (Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1023; Aug. 28, 1957, Pub. L. 85-207, Sec. 15, 71 Stat. 484; Oct. 17, 1976, Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13, 90 Stat. 2465.) -MISC1- HISTORICAL AND REVISION NOTES Based on title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., Sec. 122, 209, and section 1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed., The Public Health and Welfare (June 18, 1929, ch. 28, Sec. 9, 46 Stat. 23; June 19, 1948, ch. 502, Sec. 2, 62 Stat. 479; July 15, 1949, ch. 338, title VI, Sec. 607, 63 Stat. 441). Section consolidates the first paragraph of section 209 of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., which section related to the decennial censuses of population, agriculture, etc. (see subchapter II of chapter 5 of this revised title), with that part of section 122 of such title which made such section 209 applicable to the quinquennial censuses of manufactures, the mineral industries, and other businesses (see subchapter I of chapter 5 of this revised title) and applicable to the surveys provided for by section 121(b) of such title (see subchapter IV of chapter 5 of this revised title), and that part of subsection (b) of section 1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed., which made such section 209 applicable to the decennial censuses of housing (see subchapter II of chapter 5 of this revised title). For remainder of sections 122 and 209 of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., and of section 1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed. (which section has been transferred in its entirety to this revised title), see Distribution Table. The language of section 209 of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., providing that it should 'be the duty' of all persons over eighteen years of age, to answer correctly, to the best of their knowledge, when requested, etc., was omitted as unnecessary and redundant. The provisions, as herein revised, define offenses and prescribe penalties for committing them, and are deemed sufficient for the purpose of enforcement. However, some of the language used in the omitted provisions was necessarily included in the description of the offense. The designation of the first offense, herein described, as a 'misdemeanor', was omitted as covered by section 1 of title 18, U.S.C., 1952 ed., Crimes and Criminal Procedure, classifying crimes; and words 'upon conviction thereof' were omitted as surplusage. References to the Secretary (of Commerce) and to any 'authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof', etc., were substituted for references to the Director of the Census and to any 'supervisor, enumerator, or special agent, or other employee of the Census Office', to conform with 1950 Reorganization Plan No. 5, Sec. 1, 2, eff. May 24, 1950, 15 F.R. 3174, 64 Stat. 1263. See revision note to section 4 of this title. Changes were made in phraseology. AMENDMENTS 1976 - Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13(1), struck out provision authorizing imprisonment for not more than sixty days for refusing or willfully neglecting to answer questions under this section. Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13(2), struck out provision authorizing imprisonment for not more than one year for willfully giving a false answer to a question under this section. Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13(3), added subsec. (c). 1957 - Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 85-207 substituted 'I, II, IV, and V' for 'I, II, and IV'. EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1976 AMENDMENT Amendment by Pub. L. 94-521 effective Oct. 17, 1976, see section 17 of Pub. L. 94-521, set out as a note under section 1 of this title. -SECREF- SECTION REFERRED TO IN OTHER SECTIONS This section is referred to in section 225 of this title. -END- -CITE- 13 USC Sec. 193 -EXPCITE- TITLE 13 CHAPTER 5 SUBCHAPTER V -HEAD- Sec. 193. Preliminary and supplemental statistics -STATUTE- In advance of, in conjunction with, or after the taking of each census provided for by this chapter, the Secretary may make surveys and collect such preliminary and supplementary statistics related to the main topic of the census as are necessary to the initiation, taking, or completion thereof. -SOURCE- (Added Pub. L. 85-207, Sec. 14, Aug. 28, 1957, 71 Stat. 484.) -END- -CITE- 2 USC Sec. 2a -EXPCITE- TITLE 2 CHAPTER 1 -HEAD- Sec. 2a. Reapportionment of Representatives; time and manner; existing decennial census figures as basis; statement by President; duty of clerk -STATUTE- (a) On the first day, or within one week thereafter, of the first regular session of the Eighty-second Congress and of each fifth Congress thereafter, the President shall transmit to the Congress a statement showing the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed, as ascertained under the seventeenth and each subsequent decennial census of the population, and the number of Representatives to which each State would be entitled under an apportionment of the then existing number of Representatives by the method known as the method of equal proportions, no State to receive less than one Member. (b) Each State shall be entitled, in the Eighty-third Congress and in each Congress thereafter until the taking effect of a reapportionment under this section or subsequent statute, to the number of Representatives shown in the statement required by subsection (a) of this section, no State to receive less than one Member. It shall be the duty of the Clerk of the House of Representatives, within fifteen calendar days after the receipt of such statement, to send to the executive of each State a certificate of the number of Representatives to which such State is entitled under this section. In case of a vacancy in the office of Clerk, or of his absence or inability to discharge this duty, then such duty shall devolve upon the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Representatives; and in case of vacancies in the offices of both the Clerk and the Sergeant at Arms, or the absence or inability of both to act, such duty shall devolve upon the Doorkeeper of the House of Representatives. (c) Until a State is redistricted in the manner provided by the law thereof after any apportionment, the Representatives to which such State is entitled under such apportionment shall be elected in the following manner: (1) If there is no change in the number of Representatives, they shall be elected from the districts then prescribed by the law of such State, and if any of them are elected from the State at large they shall continue to be so elected; (2) if there is an increase in the number of Representatives, such additional Representative or Representatives shall be elected from the State at large and the other Representatives from the districts then prescribed by the law of such State; (3) if there is a decrease in the number of Representatives but the number of districts in such State is equal to such decreased number of Representatives, they shall be elected from the districts then prescribed by the law of such State; (4) if there is a decrease in the number of Representatives but the number of districts in such State is less than such number of Representatives, the number of Representatives by which such number of districts is exceeded shall be elected from the State at large and the other Representatives from the districts then prescribed by the law of such State; or (5) if there is a decrease in the number of Representatives and the number of districts in such State exceeds such decreased number of Representatives, they shall be elected from the State at large. -SOURCE- (June 18, 1929, ch. 28, Sec. 22, 46 Stat. 26; Apr. 25, 1940, ch. 152, 54 Stat. 162; Nov. 15, 1941, ch. 470, Sec. 1, 55 Stat. 761.) -MISC1- AMENDMENTS 1941 - Act Nov. 15, 1941, provided for reapportionment based on seventeenth and subsequent decennial censuses. 1940 - Act Apr. 25, 1940, provided for reapportionment based on sixteenth decennial census. CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS Apportionment of Representatives among the several States, see Const. Art. I, Sec. 2, cl. 3, and Amend. XIV, Sec. 2. TEMPORARY INCREASE IN MEMBERSHIP Representation of States of Alaska and Hawaii in House of Representatives as not affecting basis of apportionment established by this section, see section 9 of Pub. L. 85-508, July 7, 1958, 72 Stat. 339, set out as a note preceding section 21 of Title 48, Territories and Insular Possessions, and section 8 of Pub. L. 86-3, Mar. 18, 1959, 73 Stat. 4, set out as a note preceding section 491 of Title 48. -SECREF- SECTION REFERRED TO IN OTHER SECTIONS This section is referred to in sections 2b, 2c of this title. -END- Dave Champion wrote: Read the comments below and then read the statute carefully (especially he first line of section (b))!Enjoy,Dave************************************************ The only section of Title 13 that authorizes all the intrusive questions on the census form (other than the single question about "how many people") such as name, sex, age, ethnicity, and race is Sec. 101 (cited in full below). The terms "defective," "dependent, " and "delinquent" are not defined anywhere in Title 13. Without bothering to research these definitions, it appears that when Director Kenneth Prewitt, in his letter included with the Census 2000 form, says Your privacy is protected by law (Title 13 of the United States Code), which also requires that you answer these questions. (my emphasis) what he means is "you are required by law to answer these questions because you are presumed to be defective, dependent, delinquent, or a criminal." So if you ain't, don't. Dave Wheeler TITLE 13 - CENSUS CHAPTER 3 - COLLECTION AND PUBLICATION OF STATISTICS SUBCHAPTER V - MISCELLANEOUS -HEAD- Sec. 101. Defective, dependent, and delinquent classes; crime -STATUTE- (a) The Secretary may collect decennially statistics relating - (1) to the defective, dependent, and delinquent classes; and (2) to crime, including judicial statistics pertaining thereto. (b) The statistics authorized by subsection (a) of this section shall include information upon the following questions, namely: age, sex, color, nativity, parentage, literacy by race, color, nativity, and parentage, and such other questions relating to such subjects as the Secretary deems proper. (c) In addition to the decennial collections authorized by subsections (a) and (b) of this section, the Secretary may compile and publish annually statistics relating to crime and to the defective, dependent, and delinquent classes. Have a great day Richard James, McDonald ICQ 259224Fire Talk 30630 http://www.state-citizen.org BBS 818-888-9882(818) 703-5037 voice +